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    Midgame

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    4-0-1 is kinda slow and weak, if Zealot can't feed on walls, knows how to efficently remove mines, and force probe to relocate a lot. 2-1-1 does slightly better in the situation I believe, but it just sucks since legendary miner is so inefficent.

    Also the timing you build dominion train ( 20k gas ) factors quite a bit in terms of economy, maybe reduce price and add tooltip so maybe more people feel like it's worth using ( or players just state in chat they don't care how to properly play and kick votes don't get through, since apparently EU players have no language they can use to talk to everyone, or they think the same way and just don't give a fuck ). Legendary miner is 300k gas cost for 269 mineral income per second, perfect is 1mill gas for 1.2k minerals per second --> perfect miner price = 3x legendary, perfect miner harvest = 6x legendary, the only pro for legendary is that you can get it earlier --> benefit from mineral income sooner, since having 70% of a perfect miner ( 700k gas ) is still 0 mineral income cause you cannot build it yet.

    With mines having the kill bounty ( 2x money ) it gets extremely hard to get ahead of Zealot, you will need some perfects to build strong enough mines to have a serious gas inome to increase your perfect miner count faster than Zealot can increase his feed by millions, I must do more exercise on splitting miners, so far it has proven very effective as it does not offer Zealot to run around and pick off mines, nor you have to move your whole miners and probe all the time --> this results in less kill bounty, less mining time lost and if you use walls and collection depots for vision and pathblocking your economy will most likely not be as crippled either.

    Still I feel like legendary miner could be buffed without making it overpowered ( just making the efficency a bit better ).

    Still need a mercenary designed to kill hunters --> standard mercenaries too slow and expensive to be used to get rid of hunters temporarily. I mean this should be an option right? Give probes a tool against hunters except for spraying salt in chat, like I did to win that one game just by making hunters quit. The mercenary needs to be fast, cost efficent, and maybe able to kill hunters even if they have some defense... ( possibly damage upgrades ? ), it should not be efficent against the Zealot himself though ( heavily reduced dmg, or even unable to target him )

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    I play on the NA server so all the players suck and i can win about 90% of my games with an apm of about 5. :)
    the zealot never has any idea when to or when not break mines and pursue miners, so i'm not having any problems with this.

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    Lol games nowadays are 1 of these 2:

    1: Zealot is new and unless you run your probe into him you'll win.

    2: Zealot is a veteran and unless you have some good probes to back you up you're fucked. (unless you're really above the top, which for obvious reasons, many of us aren't^^

    Edit: also this thread is from 2k16 LUL
    Last edited by Pak5000; 05-31-2018 at 02:17 PM.

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    no one cares about NA PvZ btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunset View Post
    no one cares about NA PvZ btw
    Asia > NA LUL
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    The Hero NA needs and deserves, but not the one they get right now!


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    Everything > NA PvZ OMEGALUL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunset View Post
    Everything > NA PvZ OMEGALUL
    GymRaynor = NA pro omegalul
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    TBH, i'd like NA to be as good as it was before, why? because maybe then i'd have a reason to switch my server and rape NA "pros".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kexhiluz View Post
    TBH, i'd like NA to be as good as it was before, why? because maybe then i'd have a reason to switch my server and rape NA "pros".
    NA good? Maybe back in 2014, NA has been trash for the last 3 years fam
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